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Re: A birthday party!

Postby karadekoolaid » Fri May 14, 2021 4:36 am

and it's so much easier (lazier?) saying "veggie" than trying to explain to someone who probably isn't interested

Easier it certainly is - but it has nothing at all to do with laziness.Are you suggesting it´s "lazy" not to eat meat?
At school, we used to get the most hideous slabs of gristly, fat-slathered, overcooked "meat" which simply made my stomach turn. I refused point blank to eat it, and since we only ate chicken once a week (on Sundays) at home, I lived on a basically vegetarian diet, which, as time went on, I preferred.
Lazy were the people who would serve me a cheese sandwich with a slice of ham in it, or a salad sprinkled with bacon bits. " Well ham´s not meat, is it?" That´s lazy, for me. I´d love to have seen those people eating artichokes, asparagus, aubergines, broccoli, snap peas or colocassia root.

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby Pampy » Fri May 14, 2021 7:35 am

karadekoolaid wrote:
and it's so much easier (lazier?) saying "veggie" than trying to explain to someone who probably isn't interested

Easier it certainly is - but it has nothing at all to do with laziness.Are you suggesting it´s "lazy" not to eat meat?

I'm not saying that at all - I'm really not sure why you would think so. I'm saying that it's such a faff having to explain to someone who probably doesn't want to know (eg bored waiting-on staff) and possibly also doesn't care, that it's just not worth the effort of trying to make them understand so it's expedient to take the route of least resistance.

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby Kacey » Fri May 14, 2021 9:44 am

We're both veggie in this house but these days for buffet purposes etc, we always say vegan as OH absolutely cannot bear eggs or dairy milk. so quiches, souffles, pannacotta's etc are a big no-no.

In the days when you got a meal included when flying, we very rarely both got a meal, as nearly always, someone would have snaffled a veggie option when they hadn't requested one.

Aegean Airlines still do inflght meals and no-one ever steals our vegan option.

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby Pepper Pig » Sat May 22, 2021 10:55 am

More on tofu from Otollenghi. Makes me want to try it.

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/m ... ee-caramel

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby Stokey Sue » Sat May 22, 2021 4:37 pm

Tofu and cashew nit sounds like a good combination, though slightly puzzled as to why he uses olive oil in a sambal, a more neutral oil woul seem both better and cheaper to my taste

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby scullion » Sat May 22, 2021 4:53 pm

light olive oil is pretty neutral.

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby karadekoolaid » Sat May 22, 2021 8:53 pm

Well his sambal is his own version, evidently. All the recipes I´ve got ( which include some pretty fiery, original Indonesian versions) use a neutral vegetable oil, palm sugar instead of maple syrup and no tomato paste. Traditionally, of course, the sambal is made in a pestle and mortar. I´ve got no idea how many hours it would take to make like that :shock:
But Ottolenghi makes very tasty stuff, even if his recipes are a little complex, so why not? looks good to me; might be the only way I could eat tofu.

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby Stokey Sue » Sat May 22, 2021 10:46 pm

While light olive oil smells much stronger in cooking than it tastes, I really think I’d be able to detect it in the finished dish, and I think I’d rather not

This maybe a local phenomenon but decent palm sugar is one of the things that mysteriously vanished in lockdown round here, I’m sure I’ll be able to get it if I go to the big pan-Asian supermarket. I’ve been looking through Ching-He Huang’s Asian Green and she uses golden syrup quite a lot, presumably as a cheap and cheerful substitute for palm sugar

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby Amyw » Sun May 23, 2021 12:25 pm

Those recipes look delicious and would quite happily eat all of them . The dessert would be fantastic for vegans wouldn’t it

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby scullion » Sun May 23, 2021 1:48 pm

i use maple syrup as a substitute for palm sugar. golden syrup just doesn't have the flavour.

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby Stokey Sue » Sun May 23, 2021 3:55 pm

I usually use palm sugar, but I was just musing on why Ching used golden syrup in savoury dishes at all, unless there’s another reason? I can’t think of an obvious one

I don’t usually have maple syrup in the house

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby scullion » Sun May 23, 2021 4:58 pm

i do - a very useful ingredient.
and palm sugar is less easy for me to get.

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Re: A birthday party!

Postby Pepper Pig » Mon May 24, 2021 7:59 am

I have it for emergency pancakes. :oops:

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