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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby dennispc » Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:38 pm

Briefly Jeral- yes, in spades.

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Postby Pampy » Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:38 pm

dennispc wrote:The latest Lakeland catalogue has the usual Panasonic bread maker, but is now offering a sough dough one - £249.99. Claims it can produceda starter in 24 hours rather than five days and a loaf in five hours.

Don’t think I’ll put it on my Christmas list.

I've had my latest Panasonic breadmaker for over 4 years and it has the sourdough functionality, so it's not a new feature - never tried it though.

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Postby slimpersoninside » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:43 pm

Pampy wrote:
dennispc wrote:The latest Lakeland catalogue has the usual Panasonic bread maker, but is now offering a sough dough one - £249.99. Claims it can produceda starter in 24 hours rather than five days and a loaf in five hours.

Don’t think I’ll put it on my Christmas list.

I've had my latest Panasonic breadmaker for over 4 years and it has the sourdough functionality, so it's not a new feature - never tried it though.

Me too Pampy!! Keep muttering to myself I'll use it one day but that day has yet to come :lol: .

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Postby PatsyMFagan » Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:05 pm

I'm puzzled how this feature would work in a bread-maker. Isn't the main thing about sour dough is you make your own starter, then use some of it to start a loaf off and re-fresh the starter, then the loaf dough is left to prove for hours on end (just my take on it, not deriding it at all ;) )

I use my bread-maker on the dough setting to make bread in which I use milk kefir as about 50% of the liquid.. this takes about 1.5 hours and then I let it prove for another hour in the tin before baking :thumbsup ...

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby Pampy » Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:37 pm

You make the starter in the breadmaker then separately use it to make a loaf.

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby PatsyMFagan » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:18 am

I don't think I would replace my bog standard bread maker with this one then ;)

I just need the dough function :lol:

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby Pampy » Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:24 am

It is a bog standard breadmaker - all you do to make the starter is mix the ingredients in a container then put it in the bread pan and put it on the sourdough function - it just warms the mixture to get it to activate.

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby PatsyMFagan » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:39 pm

And for that you pay HOW MUCH ???? :shock: :shock: :shock: ;) :lol:

I mean the Lakeland one ;)

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Postby scullion » Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:47 pm

Pampy wrote:It is a bog standard breadmaker - all you do to make the starter is mix the ingredients in a container then put it in the bread pan and put it on the sourdough function - it just warms the mixture to get it to activate.

interesting (not that i'll trade in my ancient one). is that any different to putting the starter on a prove cycle?

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby Pampy » Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:46 pm

It takes 24 hours - much longer than a prove cycle - I think the temperature is lower.

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Postby aero280 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:10 am

A thread resurrection! :)

Just a comment too say that my sourdough bread started to become very sour, almost unacceptably so. I have found, by chance, that adding a handful or two of rolled oats to the bread has made it taste "more normal". About 100g of oats replacing 100g of flour.

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby scullion » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:28 pm

interesting.
has the starter changed or are you using the 'withholding a lump' method?
if the latter, maybe like making yoghurt from a bought one, the strains of yeasts have diminished and left you with ones that aren't as appetising.

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby Badger's Mate » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:08 pm

There was a jar of starter at the back of the fridge. It stank, not unlike rotten meat. I decided not to keep it...

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby aero280 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:26 pm

I'm still withholding a lump of dough from the mix. The oats seem to have reset the "brew" and the bread is a lot more acceptable to eat. It's been OK for the last dozen loaves and if I feel it's "going sour", I am now adding some oats to the next loaf.

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby scullion » Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:28 pm

that's a good tip to know, thanks.

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Postby liketocook » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:48 pm

I managed to kill my starter earlier in the year - months of neglect and accidently introduced some nasties trying to get it going again. :oops:
Yesterday DIL-to-be brought me a new one I must remember not to forget about and get some bread made :) (or at least not abandon it in the fridge for the best part of a year! )

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby Badger's Mate » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:05 pm

or at least not abandon it in the fridge for the best part of a year!


That was my problem...

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Postby KeenCook2 » Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:15 pm

I don't make sourdough anything but saw this and thought some of you who do may find it interesting/ intriguing/ or old hat :lol:

https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food ... e-brownies

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby aero280 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:29 am

A bit if thread resurrection...

An article on sourdough and it's hijacking by the big bakers and marketeers...

http://www.artisanfoodlaw.co.uk/blog/so ... abricators

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Re: Sourdough ... your experience and tips please

Postby Badger's Mate » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:38 am

in a world where wholemeal flour that's not wholemeal, whole milk that isn't whole milk and a package that is filled less than it says are now enshrined in law, I would expect it to be legal to make and sell sourdough bread that's not sourdough.

I've moaned before about a Bertinet sliced wrapped 'sourdough' loaf that we received by accident in a supermarket delivery. It was effectively just any old sliced loaf with artisanal marketing.

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