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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby herbidacious » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:51 am

I like your positive thinking BM :)

(On another, but reelated note, husband wanted to order a book from the States and they wanted to chargre £50 'shopping' because of the Brexit situation??!!??)

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby scullion » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:20 pm

i wouldn't say it was damned with faint praise - that implies it's not that good as cheddars go. it's ok - i've had a few better but i've had plenty worse - and if its available to mark it's worth him trying it.

i'm not sure how much cheese will pass across the pond - the americans will refuse any unpasteurised cheeses from here and according to things we've read any of the smaller artisanal stuff from there will be horrendously expensive here. - and we already get 'american cheese'.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby karadekoolaid » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:34 pm

Yesterday I finished all but a small square of Cathedral City Cheddar, with a salad. I thought it was great - pleasant sharpness, creamy , just slightly "gritty" - wonderful!
Mind you - I haven´t eaten a decent piece of Cheddar since I was last in the UK 2 years ago, so I´m not really qualified to give an opinion!
I´d buy some,. Mark. I´d also go for some Wisconcin cheddar, to see how they compare.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby scullion » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:55 pm

and if you like it, buy some for the freezer.
when frozen in block form cheddar goes a bit crumbly but it freezes fine grated.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby aero280 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:53 pm

Picking up on a point in the OP, I wonder if the US Cathedral City Cheddar is imported, or made under licence in the US. If the latter it may well be changed to suit US expectations. It would be interesting to read the package and see if it lists the place of manufacture.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby aero280 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:01 pm

Ah! Dairy Crest has been bought out by Saputo Industries Inc.

Maybe the cheese will be exported, for now, at least. I remember the promises made about Cadburys...

https://www.dairyindustries.com/news/32 ... -dairy-uk/

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby Badger's Mate » Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:20 pm

There are lots of lovely artisanal cheeses in the UK made with pasteurised milk. Presumably trade deals make the tariffs and hence prices lower than WTO rules allow.

There's a local couple importing Italian stuff whose business model is strongly dependent upon a deal with the EU. Their current range of cheeses go up to £45/kg, obviously most are very much cheaper than that, but it remains to be seen what the impact will be. Those cheeses sell at that price however.

Doubtless cheap and cheerful US cheeses would come in more cheaply under a deal but other cheeses would be worth importing also.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby Lokelani » Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:50 pm

Godminster vintage is well worth going out of your way for, but it's hard enough to get in the UK. The Cathedral City Vintage is not bad, depending what you have there to compare it to of course.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby mistakened » Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:32 pm

I have no choice, the best Cheddar cheese that I can but is Cathedral City

Moira

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby jeral » Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:54 pm

Hi mark1111757. Cathedral Farms is an everyday brand here as said but is still pretty good and doesn't break the bank at at about £7-12 kg depending on matured age. I think the 25% import tariff still applies on EU cheese in the US, so with that and transport it won't be an everyday price for you.

This article Sept 20 on launch says that Saputo are expanding their Cornwall premises to make more for international markets.
https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/dairy/cathe ... 57.article
They already sell to Canada. Would it be cheaper to buy direct from there to avoid double transport?

It seems that even US Cheddar-style aged cheeses all cost an arm and a leg so if you buy some, let's hope you don't like it! I'd go for the vintage which will be the furthest from tasteless plastic slices you could get. It should last longer as only a small nibble at a time should be enough.

Cath.City is sold as a piece in a resealable vacpack, so will keep unopened for a very long time. Once opened only for a week, maybe two, as it sweats and moulds as cheese does, so cut it into portion sticks and wrap each tightly in freezer paper and foil/poly bag before freezing.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby Amyw » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:01 pm

I would only ever freeze cheddar grated , I think if you freeze it in solid pieces , the texture goes really funny and crumbly so I wouldn’t use it in say a cheese salad after

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby jeral » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:07 pm

Amyw, my cheddar and feta "fingers" come out as they went in after defrosting in the fridge. I use Reynolds freezer paper which is quite thick and waxed with something on the inner side, then those in foil and the package in a poly bag, all minus as much air as I can exclude.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby MagicMarmite » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:14 pm

It's the only brand I'll buy ready grated as the coating isn't too floury.
Obviously it would be better to grate my own but I'm too lazy these days..

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby Stokey Sue » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:25 pm

I find ready grated actually freezes better, because of the coating (which is just a minute amount of potato starch), if you are careful it can be extracted as "free flow"
Morrison's own brand is quite good

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby jeral » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:26 pm

I don't think Mark can get the grated version in the US as it's limited to the three he showed. It's a pity as on the Cath.City website they also do a taster of all three (mature, extra, vintage) which would be ideal.

I fail to grate extra mature without it crumbling so use a cheese wire peeler for slices instead. Ready grated surprisingly is not much different in price so I would buy that if that's how I mainly used it.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby karadekoolaid » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:10 pm

Once opened only for a week, maybe two, as it sweats and moulds as cheese does,


Mine arrived from Spain, in a suitcase, on November 6th. I opened it immediately - and finished it yesterday. It was still fine.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby Pampy » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:23 pm

I've kept it for quite a while once opened too. Have never had any go mouldy on me.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby jeral » Sun Dec 20, 2020 8:36 pm

I'm happy to take your words for it onlongevity, but if I were paying what Mark will have to pay, I 'd sure want to keep an eye on it.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby Lokelani » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:04 pm

I find most vintage cheddars last in the fridge quite a while past date. Also once opened, if they have the resealable plastic pack I do tend to leave them in as we go through cheese quite quckly.

If it's precious, expensive or I really need it to last ages, I re-wrap in Lakeland food saver paper, which is waxed on both sides. Cheese lasts for ages in the fridge in that.

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Re: Is this cheese worth going out of my way for

Postby Pampy » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:02 am

jeral wrote:I'm happy to take your words for it onlongevity, but if I were paying what Mark will have to pay, I 'd sure want to keep an eye on it.

How much does it cost in the US - is it a lot more than here in the UK?

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