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Genetically modified meat

Postby Renee » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:55 am

I bought pork chops in a pack from Sainsbury and enjoyed them very much. They were tender and with a good flavour. I read the information on the pack and noticed that they had been genetically modified. Is this a common practice?

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Suffs » Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:03 pm

The pork will not have been genetically modified Renee ... it may be that the pig could’ve been fed on imported GM soya meal.

https://www.fwi.co.uk/news/gm-free-pork ... t-the-feed

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Renee » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:45 pm

Thanks for the interesting article Suffs. I've just checked the wording and it says
"Our exclusive pigs are bred using unique genetics to ensure the consistent delivery of tenderness, succulence and flavour. The meat is carefully matured to develop depth and distinction." They are Hampshire Cross pigs.

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Suelle » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:01 pm

Renee wrote:Thanks for the interesting article Suffs. I've just checked the wording and it says
"Our exclusive pigs are bred using unique genetics to ensure the consistent delivery of tenderness, succulence and flavour. The meat is carefully matured to develop depth and distinction." They are Hampshire Cross pigs.


It sounds as if it's just selective breeding - a form of genetic modification that's been around since before people knew what genes were! :lol:
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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Stokey Sue » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:11 pm

The science bit
When people say genetically modified, often abbreviated to GMO they mean artificial, laboratory introduction of genes, mainly to plants such as maize and tomatoes

But everything has genetics and farm animals have been selectively bred for centuries to make them bigger, smaller, tamer, tastier even prettier - think of race horse pedigrees!

I think the wording on the package is totally ridiculous, and possibly worth feeding back to Sainsbury’s that they are idiots and they are worrying people with stupid jargon. But I think it just means they are a slightly unusual cross-breed pig, two or more different distinct breeds in the pedigree. But farm bred ( admittedly probably using artificial insemination) in the usual way, as Suffs says

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Renee » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:15 pm

Thanks so much for all of the information!

It didn't worry me, but I was a bit curious. I would definitely recommend them and will certainly buy them again!

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/pro ... rence-550g

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Suelle » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:48 pm

Renee wrote:Thanks so much for all of the information!

It didn't worry me, but I was a bit curious. I would definitely recommend them and will certainly buy them again!

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/pro ... rence-550g


Did you cook them as instructed Renée? 24 minutes sounds a long time for a pork chop, even allowing for slower cooking in the oven for part of the time.

I usually buy boneless loin steaks which only need about 8 minutes in a frying pan.
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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Earthmaiden » Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:55 pm

Stokey Sue wrote:I think the wording on the package is totally ridiculous, and possibly worth feeding back to Sainsbury’s that they are idiots and they are worrying people with stupid jargon.

Quite agree!

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Stokey Sue » Thu Dec 03, 2020 3:43 pm

Suelle wrote:
I usually buy boneless loin steaks which only need about 8 minutes in a frying pan.


I buy those too they quite often put big packs on offer so there are usually some in the freezer. Both Sainsbury’s and Morrison’s sell premium Hampshire pork at a decent price

I cut up the smaller ones for stir fries

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby karadekoolaid » Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:24 pm

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Stokey Sue » Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:46 pm

That's a Douglas Adams joke! The Dish of the Day at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe in Hitchhiker's Guide

https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Ameglian_Major_Cow

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Renee » Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:19 pm

Yes, for once, I did follow the instructions Suelle, browning them first and then finishing in the oven. They turned out well.

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Suelle » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:06 pm

Renee wrote:Yes, for once, I did follow the instructions Suelle, browning them first and then finishing in the oven. They turned out well.


Thanks for getting back to me! I'll look out for them when I shop next week.
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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Renee » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:29 pm

I think that being on the bone, the cutlets needs a slightly longer cooking time.

I hope that you enjoy them Suelle.

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Pampy » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:10 pm

I could well be wrong here but I always thought that if meat was on the bone, it cooked faster as the bone conducts heat to the inner portions of the meat.

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Suffs » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:12 pm

That's the theory, as I understand it Pampy ... and in my experience it works in practice too.

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby jeral » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:30 pm

That's what I thought, assuming it had logical validity. I suppose an exception might be chicken thighs for some reason that take 35 rather than 20-25 mins if without bone. I suppose it's explicable, but I know not how.

PS: I though GM food was illegal in the UK, or is that just soil-grown stuff?

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Stokey Sue » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:33 pm

But when you compare the standard pork loin chop/cutlet on the bone with the loin steaks Suelle and I mentioned they are usually a fair bit thicker; they seem to be about 280g each

Also baking and frying times aren’t likely to be identical, as Suelle says

And finally, pork is the most forgiving of meats, with the eye of lean surrounded by fat and bone, even if it’s slightly more cooked than it really needs to be, I doubt you’d notice after resting

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Suffs » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:49 pm

It is illegal in the UK and EU to genetically modify animals for meat production.

Some farmed animals are fed on food which includes GM soya and other foodstuffs of vegetable origin.

All the info is here

https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/ ... ing-eaten/

https://www.food.gov.uk/safety-hygiene/ ... fied-foods

https://www.gov.uk/food-safety-as-a-foo ... fied-foods

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Re: Genetically modified meat

Postby Renee » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:05 pm

Pampy wrote:I could well be wrong here but I always thought that if meat was on the bone, it cooked faster as the bone conducts heat to the inner portions of the meat.


I didn't know that, so I've learned something today!

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