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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Seatallan » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:21 pm

Smitch, so sorry..... she's had a good innings by the sound of it but it'll still be heart breaking won't it? :newhuggy :newhuggy

LTC, hope you feel better soon. :wave

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Earthmaiden » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:23 pm

mistakened wrote:Confusion reigns here as to where we may go.


Pretty much the same here, we're supposed to be on a lockdown but everything's open and there are people everywhere.

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Cheezy_Jazzy » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:45 pm

B&M was quite busy on Friday when I popped in, I couldn't get everything my mum had asked for. There is a new one just opened up in Hull City Centre which I will visit one night next week when I am back at work.

Just got back from Sainsbugs it wasn't too bad in there although I spent a lot of time looking for a particular ingredient I need for a recipe i am trying out tonight, had to ask an assistant in the end who asked a colleague who said I'm just restocking that!

Smitch sorry to hear about Norah.

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Stokey Sue » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:56 pm

Earthmaiden wrote:
mistakened wrote:Confusion reigns here as to where we may go.


Pretty much the same here, we're supposed to be on a lockdown but everything's open and there are people everywhere.

We aren’t really in lockdown here - just some things closed

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Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Suffs » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:21 pm

Here we are, a blank sheet to start a new chapter of chat and friendship ... who's going to start ...

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby KeenCook2 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:25 pm

Congratulations, Suffs :wino :wino :limbobanana :limbobanana

still :oops: from not working out what WAC stood for ... :oops: :lol:

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Suffs » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:28 pm

Cheers! :wino :lol: Perhaps WaC would've been more obvious KC2 ;)

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Suelle » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:29 pm

Stokey Sue wrote:We aren’t really in lockdown here - just some things closed


And tighter restrictions on the numbers of people that can meet together, both indoors and outside.
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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby WWordsworth » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:55 pm

My SFH phoned for a chat yesterday, could have done without it but heigh ho.
She told me her and fiancé will be going to his mum's for Christmas "whether we are allowed to or not".

Give me strength.

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Pepper Pig » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:39 pm

Big difference for us I’m afraid. My children and grandchildren can’t visit and vice versa and OH has had another shielding letter. It really feels like lockdown again.

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Stokey Sue » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:00 pm

Suelle wrote:
Stokey Sue wrote:We aren’t really in lockdown here - just some things closed


And tighter restrictions on the numbers of people that can meet together, both indoors and outside.

That is the theory

Unfortunately, I was talking about the practice :evil:

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby slimpersoninside » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:19 pm

As far a I can see this lockdown-lite is mainly about preventing social mixing, which to be honest would appear to be a big cause of increased infections.
I fully expect to be shouted down but I think it was a necessary step if we're going to bring down the R number. The fact is the more close interactions without good precautions e.g. distancing sufficiently, wearing masks properly etc. The more cases there will be.
IMHO getting people back together was done in haste. One lessening of a restriction wasn't fully assessed before the next was brought in, and as for the rule of 6 where the original 6 could all go on and be part of another 6 and then again and again, easily leading to quite a lot of different households mixing.

I am sorry for the likes of PP that are feeling ill effects from the increased restrictions but it would appear Covid and social mixing don't go well together (or maybe go too well). Maybe if we ALL followed the guidelines/rules more closely we might all be able to have a more 'old-style normal' life.

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Suelle » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:26 pm

I can't disagree with any of that, slimpersoninside. I haven't seen either of my children indoors since before the start of the first lockdown, and the three of us have only got together twice in the garden during that time.

Unfortunately, in addition to those wilfully ignoring the guidelines, there are some who just don't understand. I have a friend who is beginning to develop memory problems. She gets used to things gradually, but the guidelines have changed more often than she can cope with. She couldn't understand, today, why I wouldn't go in for a cup of tea after we'd had a walk together (nor why so many shops were closed).
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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby scullion » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:29 pm

it seems to be that quite a lot of the increase in cornwall is centred around schools.
the numbers were kept quite low, even after the last lockdown ended and 'visitors' swarmed down but with the new measures they seem to have risen quite a lot.
our area had an increase of 800% (nine cases) a few days ago.

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Earthmaiden » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:10 pm

I very much hope that what's in place helps. It all seems muddled though. I'm sure we were all asked to stay in and only go out for work, school, local exercise and essential shopping but really it's just keeping the most diligent vulnerables and people who live alone at home and keeping pubs closed.

How on earth can a store in town which specialises in American sweets be considered essential?

Yes, schools seem to be faring badly. I hope they're right that the under 12s don't transmit badly. A child from a home where parents are separated can belong to a home bubble, childminder bubble, school class bubble and visit the home of the other parent which could have a large second family in it and thus come into indoor contact with well over 25 people a day.

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby smitch » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:11 pm

Well Norah is home, for now. The vet squeezed out several large abscesses and she is developing more. He thinks it is being caused by a tumour, so we’re just keeping her comfortable for as long as we can.

I’ve not seen that vet before and didn’t like him as much as the usual two I see. I didn’t feel like we had a proper discussion about Norah and her prognosis. She has quite a big hole in her side now too :shock:

Thanks for all the good wishes.

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby slimpersoninside » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:27 pm

scullion wrote:it seems to be that quite a lot of the increase in cornwall is centred around schools.
the numbers were kept quite low, even after the last lockdown ended and 'visitors' swarmed down but with the new measures they seem to have risen quite a lot.
our area had an increase of 800% (nine cases) a few days ago.


Don't get me started on schools!
I was a member of support staff in a school, returned for 2 weeks in September and decided that was it, I retired. My school was a small secondary and had good systems in place, however teenagers being teenagers (they are all teenagers) I could see where things were heading, 1 case and it would be spread far and wide. Anecdotal evedince from a forum I still visit has shown me it was the right decision. Universities are another mistake IMHO.
It's all well and good saying the virus is not a problem for children and young adults, which seems to be the case, but no consideration was given to the effect on staff (adults!) or other members of their family (some being adults!). Until this is sorted out, alongside adherence to guidelines, I fear we are going to be in and out of "waves".

Obviously the upcoming vaccine will hopefully counteract the idiot factor and life will return to 'normal' :crossed .

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Uschi » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:34 pm

Good vibes for Norah!!!

We have been in a lockdown light (i.e. no restriction on movement as such, but a restriction on social contacts - only two households and no more than ten people) for a fortnight now.

I'm OK with that. Apart from smallish family meetings this is what we have been doing pretty much all year.

BTW. the Prince of Wales held a speech at the German parliament yesterday in German. And hats off to him, his German is very good indeed. He had a hint of Peter Ustinov about him, I thought (and his German was great, too, always a joy to listen to).

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby aero280 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:02 pm

I've seen some things published resulting from investigations, in S. Korea(?), into outbreaks. The suggestion is that most transmission takes place indoors where there is restricted ventilation and people are sitting still close together. So, schools, lectures, offices, buses and trains. Especially those with recirculating air conditioning /heating.

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Re: Wild about Chatter Vol. 3

Postby Uschi » Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:43 pm

Over here schools are under orders to open the windows and doors every 20 minutes for five minutes. It will be fun in winter. Children must wear masks inside and out. So far, so good.
And then they refuse to stagger the start of the school day, so the children are packed like sardines in the busses ... they have to wear masks there, too, but under those conditions ... fingers crossed for the poor little blighters and their teachers.

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