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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby scullion » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:06 pm

my daughter, when young and first encountering and recounting what she had read of the first harry potter book, had the same sort of problem with hermione.

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Renee » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:58 pm

Well 'hotel' pronounced without the 'h' is surely the French pronunciation and I speak English for goodness sake!

I always say 'syout'.

I have a question: The French don't pronounce the final consonant, so why do they put it there in the first place?

I like the Spanish language where every letter is pronounced, I seem to remember.

Mind you, I think we all pronounce 'chauffeur' the French way, otherwise it would sound rather peculiar.

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Stokey Sue » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:04 pm

Chauffeur pronounced shover in old style cockney

I don't think it's an absolute rule hat the French don't pronounce the final consonant - depends on the word and the regional accent, and it is pronounced when the next word starts with a vowel, though there's not as much running together of words that way in modern french as U was taught at school 50 years ago

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby jeral » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:42 pm

I wouldn't use a combined punctuation symbol because if a question it should have that mark. Exclamation marks imply laziness for not using suitable adjectives to convey that one should be startled, except in commands like "Stop!".

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Sakkarin » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:47 pm

Well I'm guilty of that, but I enjoy it!

But I try to keep it to one superfluous exclamation mark per post!

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Pampy » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:55 pm

jeral wrote:I wouldn't use a combined punctuation symbol because if a question it should have that mark. Exclamation marks imply laziness for not using suitable adjectives to convey that one should be startled, except in commands like "Stop!".

Why use an adjective when the exclamation mark (which I know as a shriek) conveys exactly the same meaning?

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Pampy » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:56 pm

Sakkarin wrote:Well I'm guilty of that, but I enjoy it!

But I try to keep it to one superfluous exclamation mark per post!

Failed on that then! :lol: :lol:

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby jeral » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:11 pm

Pampy wrote:Why use an adjective when the exclamation mark (which I know as a shriek) conveys exactly the same meaning?

A suitable adjective should clearly imply the reason why a reader should be taken aback, e.g. exhorbitant (amount), distasteful, unexpected, illogical or contradictory, etc.

Sakkarin, a good effort but not even close as another poster elsewhere tends to use three, yes three, exclamation marks after almost every sentence!!! Still, it seems to make the poster happy and reminds me how me how much we value delightfully quirky individuality, whilst hoping we're not criticised for our own quirkiness.

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Lusciouslush » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:37 pm

Think you're being rather pedantic there Jeral with the good ol' exclamation marks usage...…………!!!!!!

What's used in professional writing is a world apart from casual emails, texts or message board text such as ours where dull or ordinary style is usually avoided - just like personalities really!

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Sakkarin » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:45 pm

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Earthmaiden » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:46 pm

I got into the habit of the superfluous exclamation mark when writing to friends in my teens. We all did it, just as these days we'd have used emojis to convey our excitement, disappointment or horror about something. I have found it a hard habit to break when writing informally and will happily use three when among friends.

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby jeral » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:59 pm

Lusciouslush wrote:Think you're being rather pedantic there Jeral with the good ol' exclamation marks usage...…………!!!!!!

What's used in professional writing is a world apart from casual emails, texts or message board text such as ours where dull or ordinary style is usually avoided - just like personalities really!

Of course it's pedantry but it bothers me not one bit how people write (or spell) on message boards.

Dull and ordinary sums up my style perfectly. Sorry, no prizes for spotting that.

Sakkarin, Gawd knows how you spotted that one. Kudos.

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Seatallan » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:01 pm

PatsyMFagan wrote:Not forgetting the American pronounciation of Fillet Steak as Fillay .... :roll:

I had an English friend who's best friend was from the US .. my friend started pronouncing the above steak as the Americans do and also insisted on having (Maple ?) syrup with bacon :roll: :lol:


Actually, I love maple syrup with bacon. It's a fab combination. :yum
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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby PatsyMFagan » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:04 pm

Seatallan wrote:Actually, I love maple syrup with bacon. It's a fab combination.


I thought the Maple syrup was meant to go with the pancakes :?

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Stokey Sue » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:28 pm

PatsyMFagan wrote:I thought the Maple syrup was meant to go with the pancakes

They eat them all together
When I was in Uni my New Yorker flat mate would occasionally have bacon and egg with toast and marmalade for breakfast, I mean with - she put the bacon and egg on top of the marmaladed toast and ate the lot with knife and fork

Which reminds me of another US oddity - they say room mate to mean anyone with whom you share accommodation - flat mate, house mate, not necessarily someone with whom you actually share a rooom!

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby KeenCook2 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:38 pm

Talking of pronunciation, I thought that "gunwale" was pronounced as it looks ... :oops: but then I have never had any reason to encounter it. I vaguely knew it was something to do with boats but that was all :lol:

A friend sent me a poem called "The Chaos" (by G. Nolst Trenité, a.k.a. "Charivarius"; 1870 - 1946). I'd seen others, but not that particular one. It's very long and starts:

Dearest creature in creation
Studying English pronunciation,

I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse and worse

....

It's a dark abyss or tunnel,
Strewn with stones, like rowlock, gunwale,

and ends:

Finally: which rimes with "enough"
Though, through, plough, cough, hough, or tough?

Hiccough has the sound of "cup."
My advice is--give it up!

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Pampy » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:14 am

Brilliant!

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Renee » Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:36 am

Yes that was brilliant!

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby Stokey Sue » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:02 am

Great poem

As long as you can tell your gunwale (boat side) from your gunnel (alley)

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Re: 1 space or 2 after a full stop?

Postby jeral » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:16 am

Any views on why vinyl is pronounced "vye nil" and not "vin isle" as spelt? Ta.

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