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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Stokey Sue » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:49 pm

Desserts would be unlikely to have hydrolysed protein as it tastes of Marmite

And as fat is put in to give a rich mouth feel, hydrolysing would be counterproductive, whereas hydrogenation might improve stability and texture

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby jeral » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:43 am

Thanks Stokey Sue. I thought companies were voluntarily excluding hydrogenated fats but maybe some aren't :(

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Stokey Sue » Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:55 am

I don’t think they are much used (hydrogenated fat) but I’m not sure of the legal position

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Lokelani » Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:49 pm

jeral wrote:
Lokelani wrote:...

At least they don't have hydrogenated fats in like some of the instant mousse things I just saw when I searched.
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Are you sure it isn't hydrolysed veg fat or oil or protein? That's the acceptable one. I used to confuse the two when the furore over hydrogenated started. I think hydrogenated is now very rare although still not illegal in the UK as far as I can tell.

Instant Whip butterscotch was my fave, but Angel Delight is a no go for me due to my milk proteins allergy. Dehydrating or deconstructing milk/butter isn't harmful at all but I don't know how much goodness is retained.


I was thinking of the Carte D'Or ones that all the flavours seem to have hydrogenated fat of some kind, coconut, palm etc. I thought it had pretty much gone from most products in the UK, until I saw these.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Carte-dOr-Stra ... AMBWCNPR04

I was joking about the nutritional value from the calcium in the product, as you say I'm sure there is little left! However, of course you make it with milk & that's full of it! :lol:

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Earthmaiden » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:20 pm

3 sachets for £8.95? :o :o :o

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Pampy » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:22 pm

It makes 36 portions (5.4 litres) though, so only 20p a portion.

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Sakkarin » Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:53 pm

Naughty boy! 29p from Lidl...

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Sakkarin » Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:05 pm

Underwhelmed, it wasn't as nice as I remember it, an artificial taste underlying it. I also kept thinking that other than the sugar, the second main ingredient was potato (as in potato starch). And I recall there was Dream Topping too...

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby jeral » Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:13 am

The Instant Whip that preceded Angel Delight was much nicer as it set more like a mousse. I prefer adding flavour to Bird's custard powder, to eat cold or hot, made thick or thin to suit. It's probably cheaper too.

There was a programme ages ago which showed just how many chemicals can be made to taste like fruit. Maybe some of us are more sensitive than others?

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Earthmaiden » Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:40 am

I agree about Instant Whip. It was nice.

The one pictured is neither Angel Delight or Instant Whip. It looks like a cheap fake :lol:. Maybe the ingredients are not such a desirable mix.

As one who didn't like real cream much until quite recently I used to love Dream Topping. At school we had a similar thing for caterers, we called it shaving cream, it was the ultimate in such things, delicious, we all loved it.

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Stokey Sue » Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:59 am

I never liked Instant Whip - too gloopy for my taste and the flavours weren’t as much to my taste, I preferred both the texture of Instant Whip and the butterscotch and chocolate flavours

The picture is Lidl’s own brand

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Earthmaiden » Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:07 pm

Apologies then - I trust Lidl to make things that taste nice!

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby jeral » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:34 pm

This is squid in batter and crumb:

"Allergen Information
May Contain Crustaceans, May Contain Eggs, May Contain Fish, May Contain Milk, Contains Molluscs, May Contain Soya, Contains Wheat
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I never knew squid (or octopus) was a mollusc, but apparently not all molluscs have hard shells. With a hard shell, it would also be a crustacean but not all crustaceans are molluscs it seems. A school day for moi.

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Re: You need a degree in chemistry to work out what this is!

Postby Stokey Sue » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:49 pm

No crustaceans are molluscs

Crustaceans are the insect like water beasts with the articulated shells - crab, lobster, crayfish shrimp etc

Molluscs are the ones with non-articulated or no shells, wet or dry land - snails vs slugs, clams, squid, whelks etc

It gets confusing as People described as allergic to shellfish are often allergic to either mollusc or crustacean, I have a friend who likes lobster shrimp etc who is spectacularly allergic to bivalves (oyster, mussel, etc)

Remember allergy info on a commercial package includes likely contaminants

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