Wildfood campsite

[herbidacious Profile]

I take it no one is ordering takeaways...

[mistakened Profile]

I take it no one is ordering takeaways...

they don't deliver up here

[scullion Profile]

i think we are outside of any delivery zone - not that we often get a takeaway.

[Pepper Pig Profile]

I got everything I needed in Tesco this morning. I qualify for the old and vulnerable thing because OH is 85, has dementia and I'm his primary carer. Am kicking myself for forgetting to look for flour but they had toilet rolls, paracetamol and milk. I only needed the milk.

[Stokey Sue Profile]

I wash most fruit and veg in water with a drop of Ecover zero, then rinse - probably causes me to swallow less washing up liquid than I pick up from crockery

The “antibacterial” cleaners- sprays and wipes such as Dettol and Astonish- are interesting. The labels and the websites just say they contain “disinfectant” so now I’m in a rage that they don’t say which, I can see no reason for not telling us, I want to know which chemicals I am handling.

I remember from when they became commonplace that they were mainly quaternary ammonium disinfectants (quats), which are considered fairly effective against many types of virus, but of course there’s little specific evidence for CV-19, though it is the type of virus quats inactivate by removing their protective coat. The US Environmental Protection Agency thinks quats are worth using. I checked - the products do still seem to be quat based.

It’s worth remembering that hypochlorite bleach, including Milton, and quats attack the physical structure of germs and they don’t develop resistance any more than you develop resistance to acid burns.

I’ve checked this out as well as I can by searching, but there’s no one good source to link to. Of course the sprays and wipes are effective cleansers, and just removing germs is good.

[Badger's Mate Profile]

One of my early jobs forty years ago was formulating detergents and disinfectant cleaners. We used quats then, primarily benzalkonium chloride, also cetyl trimethylammonium bromide, which is/was the stuff in Savlon. We also used another one, I've forgotten which, as an antistatic treatment for carpets

[Stokey Sue Profile]

Benzalkonium chloride is used in pharmaceuticals to prevent germs from growing in the products, especially in contact lens solutions and eye drops. Some people can get sore eyes from repeated contact with it, but not that common.

[Badger's Mate Profile]

When I moved from there into the world of lubricants I tried using quats as replacements for ammonia as preservatives in water-based forging lubes (metalworking rather than counterfeiting ). It was spectacularly unsuccessful. We eventually went over to isothiazolinone preservatives.

[Gruney Profile]

There must be an unbreakable law that says if you put a single piece of dark chocolate in a chilli, it's compulsory to scoff the rest!

[mistakened Profile]

There must be an unbreakable law that says if you put a single piece of dark chocolate in a chilli, it's compulsory to scoff the rest!

Yes, it is a subsection of the law that says if you buy chocolate for someone else then eat it yourself the calories belong to the intended recipient

[Earthmaiden Profile]

Usually yes, Blodsdad. In these times when you don't know if you'll be able to get another bar, it needs careful consideration first .

Thanks for the comments re veg washing.

Was just getting on well with repotting my blueberry bushes when my neighbour's man friend turned up. They are living apart during the lockdown but he pops round every day and they see each other and chat across the garden. Thought it polite to leave them to it . Will finish the job tomorrow.

[Suffs Profile]

We're back from collecting our order from the Farm Shop ... they phoned earlier today to let me know there were a few things they didn't have so that I could decide on substitutions. Even they didn't have much in the way of flour although they usually carry a huge range from a local mill ... no plain or SR, not even the expensive organic stone-ground bread flour ........ but they did have granary flour and spelt flour so we won't go without bread. No dried haricot beans but we've got butter beans, a big piece of free range pork belly, a lovely chicken, no bacon hocks but a lovely piece of gammon on special offer, smoked bacon, minced beef at 3 for 2, sausages, casseroling lamb, shin of beef, lots of veg, a sack of potatoes, milk, cream, eggs. All top quality stuff, and for 25% less than supermarket prices.

The supermarkets are going to come out of this crisis just fine and dandy, they'll probably be better off than before when it's all over ... but the small specialist producers could be hit hard ... it could be the end of their businesses, and that could mean the end of some of the smaller family farms and the pedigree and rare breed herds of cattle etc. Using the farm shops if we possibly can, is a way of helping them to sustain us ... the one we go to delivers locally and also does online orders that you can collect and they'll carry it to the boot of your car.

Now that's all either quarantined, put away in the freezer or stored in the cupboards ... and we've had our supper ... a cottage pie from the freezer (I've also taken a container of chicken and leek pie filling out of the freezer and we'll have a pie tomorrow). We had to take those out of the freezer to make room for the stuff from the farm shop.

Feet are up!

[herbidacious Profile]

i wish we had a small independent producer to buy from or have dleiver stuff to us...

[Suffs Profile]

Sweet dreams all ....

[Earthmaiden Profile]

I don't think liketocook has joined this board and I don't think she's on the Wildie FB page so won't know what happened. Does anyone have contact details for her or can someone like Suelle or aero access her email address?

[mistakened Profile]

Good Morning Campers, a bit grey here, should I put my washing outside?

Moira

[Suelle Profile Website]

I don't think liketocook has joined this board and I don't think she's on the Wildie FB page so won't know what happened. Does anyone have contact details for her or can someone like Suelle or aero access her email address?

I don't have access to those details, not sure about aero.

[Earthmaiden Profile]

Morning all!

Thank you Suelle. Maybe someone will have contact.

Venturing out to get my Sainsburys click and collect today. Feeling quite excited! I have ordered a few things for GDs mum as well and will drop them on her doorstep so the car will get a run. I think that's all within the bounds of what's allowed as they are self isolating (through choice). I've had an email from Sainsburys this morning advising of substitutions. All pretty sensible but there's no flour or dried fruit to be had.

The tone of our local FB page has gradually changed over the past week as people become irritated by the habits of neighbours they hadn't noticed much before and ask what to do. Crying babies, bonfires, excessive use of weed and noisy windchimes all feature. Luckily I've got lovely neighbours and we are all enjoying the peace afforded by the pub garden down the road being closed.

[herbidacious Profile]

I had to extract myself from our local FB page... I am only regretting insofar that it oculd have been a source of information about what's avaiable in Sainsburys. But they were mostly a bit vile.

This is sad:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52098436

and kind of ironic when all the online plant sellers are imploding with too much demand.

It looks much nicer out today. I am going to make a more concerted effort to inflate the tyres on my long neglected bicycle today. I fear the inner tubes might have rotted. I hope not, as replacing them involves disconnecting gears. Will have to decide if it's worth it (it probably being walking it to Catford where Halfords are running a bicycle maintenance service still.)

I am also aiming to do a tiny bit of gardening. But now... more tech stuff for work to sort out. Oh joy.

I do hope someone has LTC's contact details. If anyone knows her real name it might be possible to find her on FB. Or would that be creepy?

[Stokey Sue Profile]

Liketocook is a member of the FB group, she posted on the who’s who listing there but I don’t think she uses FB much though

That user name is on the list of members here, but registered in 2012 and never posted, so she may not remember her password