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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Suffs » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:55 am

Sakkarin ... Way back, when buying bacon from a stall on Swansea market the stall holder explained that the bacon was cured using traditional methods which made it very salty. She instructed me to put the rashers for breakfast in a shallow dishes h and pour hot water from the kettle over it ... leave for a few minutes then drain and place in a hot frying pan ... she said you’ll soon learn how long to leave it in the water to suit your taste. She was right and the bacon was delicious. She said that the old methods were developed back in the days before households had fridges anc the bacon had to be saltier to keep for longer. It makes sense. We used to always soak a bacon joint or gammon overnight before cooking didn’t we ... but nowadays most cures are so mild we don’t need to.

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Sakkarin » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:00 pm

IS IT COLLAR BACON? Not collar, it's belly pork, I think it was from Loon Fung in Alperton.

The dessert was Lemon Parfait with Raspberries/compote and Tuiles.

Felafel soup (on the old website): http://carta.co.uk/foodforum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1813

Shame that I didn't have that info back when I made the bacon, Suffs! I remember how bacon joints used to have to be soaked.

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby karadekoolaid » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:51 am

Now that I come to think of it, I believe the biggest Crime Against Food was Heinz Spaghetti, and Ravioli, in a tin. :crying1 :crying1 :crying1 :crying1

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Amyw » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:06 am

I quite like tinned spaghetti :gonzo

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Joanbunting » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:25 am

karadekoolaid wrote:Now that I come to think of it, I believe the biggest Crime Against Food was Heinz Spaghetti, and Ravioli, in a tin. :crying1 :crying1 :crying1 :crying1


I couldn't gree more adding possibly Heinz curried beans = the very nearly turned me off curries for life!
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Re: Crimes against food

Postby WWordsworth » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:23 pm

I used to love curried beans and tinned ravioli.
I considered them exotic - at the time.

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Binky » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:42 pm

when I was small, dad used to cook a Polish dish called Gołumbki. It was buttered cabbage leave parcels of mince, rice, onions and served with a tomato sauce.

Recently, I saw this at the local Polish shop, but in a tin. As I reached for it (for old time's sake) a Polish lady shopper said don't bother, the tinned version is terrible.

This is the version my dad cooked for us

http://fromargentinawithlove.com/2010/1 ... age-rolls/

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Sakkarin » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:56 pm

"From Argentina With Love" ?

Don't let Wargarden see this Polish version, the "garniture" is dumplings AND parsley!!!

http://www.polskafoods.com/polish-stuff ... bki-recipe

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Binky » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:03 pm

Sakkarin, a lot of Poles and Ukrainians went to Argentina post 1945. My dad's best army pal went out there and started a lorry driving business. He asked my dad (who had been re-settled in the UK) to join him, but by then dad had married my mother and I was on the way. Just think, I might have been a Spanish speaking Argentinian Pole.....

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Stokey Sue » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:51 pm

Spaghetti hoops can’t have been the worst crime against food in my youth


There was Vesta chow mien, with those bullet like freeze dried peas :lol:

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Sakkarin » Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:02 pm

Do you remember me lovingly recreating it a few years back, following the instructions to the letter as if it was real food?

Tinned spaghetti many degrees more vile with me.

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Binky » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:23 pm

Stop please! Vesta Chow Mein was unutterably exotic to Yorkshire teenagers in the early 1970s. We got back from a night out (10pm ish) and started to cook the chow mein. My memory is of a strange (but not unpleasant) flavour, and crunchy noodles. Not a bit like proper Chinese food, but tasty and exotic to us.

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Sakkarin » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:58 pm

Here's my go at that recipe, Binky. Sheesh, what a faff! More faff even than stuffed chicken wings!

However quite tasty, in a rural Eastern European sort of way. By coincidence I happened to have 4 oz each of pork mince and beef mince in the freezer and just enough mushrooms, although I did buy an enormous cabbage specially. I removed the leaves before cooking the cabbage, it seemed more appropriate than cooking the whole cabbage, peeling off the outer leaves and throwing the rest away.

Half portion of the recipe made 9 huge stuffages, 3 would probably have been enough for a meal.

The tomato sauce was too chunky, so I semi-liquidised it, but it went a bit orangey, next time I'd probably attack it with a potato masher to reduce the lumps, rather than liquidise, leave it with some texture.

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Binky » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:24 pm

to me, that looks perfect Sakkarin.

Yes, it's a faff, but dad did a whole bowlful of these tasty little parcels, so we dined on them for a couple of days at least.

Absolutely delicious in my memory of childhood.

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Rainbow » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:23 am

Binky wrote:to me, that looks perfect Sakkarin.

Yes, it's a faff, but dad did a whole bowlful of these tasty little parcels, so we dined on them for a couple of days at least.

Absolutely delicious in my memory of childhood.

My mother used to make something similar - her parents were Russian - but they had lemon juice in the tomato sauce as well, if I remember correctly
We used to like them as kids, and like Binky ate them for a couple of days. My mother wasn't into very fussy cooking though, so maybe she had a less faffy method??

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Binky » Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:42 am

Hi Rainbow, my dad was from eastern Poland (on the border with Ukraine). He spoke Polish and Russian; the recipes and household traditions were very similar, so I can well believe that your family had their version of this ubiquitous eastern European peasant dish.

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Stokey Sue » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:21 am

I’ve made Lebanese stuffed cabbage from an Anissa Helou recipe, they are actually quite similar to the golabki I’ve eaten at Dacquise Polish restaurant in South Kensington

https://daquise.co.uk/

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Binky » Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:52 am

Looking at that menu is another strong reminder of childhood meals - red cabbage, barley stews, beetroot soup, strong horseradish, mashed potatoes, dumplings, lots of yogurt, rye bread and garlic.

Dad died when I was nearly 14 years old, and after that my English mother cooked fish fingers, Birds Eye beefburgers, and anything that went with chips (eggs, beans or fish). Horrible in retrospect.

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Renee » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:12 pm

Sakkarin wrote:IS IT COLLAR BACON? Not collar, it's belly pork, I think it was from Loon Fung in Alperton.


Thanks Sakkarin. I would never have guessed.

Oooh Vesta Chow Mein with those lovely crispy noodles was probably my first introduction to Chinese food way back in the early 60s I would think!

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Re: Crimes against food

Postby Sakkarin » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:19 pm

Yep, absolutely, as authentically Chinese as instant Spag Bol!

I mentioned it was Loon Fung, as their pork belly is twice as thick as the stuff you get in supermarkets.

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