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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby Stokey Sue » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:06 pm

That all makes perfect sense Suelle

My father never got the hang of his hearing aids because
1. he waited until his hearing was really bad, he should have had them 5 years earlier
2. he never persisted with them for a long enough period
3. he didn't get (didn't seek) any support

It's exactly the same with eyes - glasses, contact lenses, magnifiers and other assistive technologies don't fix anything; learning to use them properly can change you life, but you have to stick with the programme to get the hang of them, and often advice from a fellow sufferer is more helpful than from the lovely low vision specialists (optometrists with additional training).

And time, it takes time - even in a young person it takes at least 3 weeks to adapt to a significant shift in vision as it needs the brain to do a bit of rewiring, I guess ears are the same?

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby halfateabag » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:52 pm

Thanks for your responses, some interesting details and some questions for me to check out.

I remember when Dad was with us, I was often asked by him to 'clean' his ear piece on his aid. Not the most pleasant task but hope it enriched his later years. I can always remember his comments when he got his aid. He never got over hearing himself breathing again !!

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby herbidacious » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:47 pm

I am a little confused by the merging of threadds, but, PP in case you are interested:


Imperial Leather's "...brand's origins date to 1768 when a Russian nobleman called Count Orlof commissioned a brand of perfume from Bayleys of Bond Street in London. The perfume was called 'Eau de Cologne Imperiale Russe'. Russia leather was a high-quality leather exported widely from Russia and recognisable by a distinctive aroma from its birch oil tanning process. In 1921 Bayleys was acquired by Cussons Sons & Co, owned by Alexander Tom Cussons. It was not until some years later in 1938 that Alexander Cussons's daughter, Marjorie, used a version of the original perfume and created Imperial Leather soap. The soap was initially called 'Russian Leather', but was soon renamed to Imperial Leather. In 1975 the Cussons Group was itself acquired by Paterson Zochonis, recently renamed to PZ Cussons."
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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby WWordsworth » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:51 pm

My mother refused to wear hers, too uncomfortable.
No amount of talking would persuade her she needed to get used to them.

As her hearing worsened, conversation was exhausting.
Everything had to be said 3 times and at volume.

She would sulk if I refused to bellow at her in a café.
(As her appetite subsided we found the best way to get calories into her was to take her somewhere nice and sit her in front of a creamy coffee and a slice of cake.)

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby halfateabag » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:18 pm

Hello all hearing aid wearers (& others)...

I have now had 24 hours with my 'new ears' and I have to say I am well happy with the set up, they are very comfortable and discreet and I have a new world of hearing. I keep telling OH to speak quieter.

Today the army were 'playing on the plain' it sounded like they were next door.

I am very happy with the outfit and am very glad I took that step.

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby Stokey Sue » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:36 pm

That is good news Zosh, really pleased for you

Encourages me as though my hearing is quite good now, I’ll probably need them, of course I can’t lip read

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby jeral » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:06 pm

That's really good halfateabag. So many of these aids although wonderful can be so troublesome or painful to wear.
I'll stop shouting now.

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby scullion » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:17 pm

i assume this is the thread to use - there are a couple of recent recalls from the food hygiene standards bods. one a few days ago for a diverse load of seafood from asda, waitrose and sainsburys.
and another from today about a lemon drizzle cake with un declared soya in.

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby Suffs » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:36 am

I had an email from Wrose re the seafood Scully ... thing is fresh seafood is something we eat straight away ... not keep hanging around waiting for a recall ... fortunately we’re both unscathed. :thumbsup

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby Earthmaiden » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:50 am

Zosh, that's great news. Have you got 'over the ear' ones or ones that sit in the ear? My hearing's not as good as it was but I'm still managing for now.

scully, for some reason I get alerts from rags like the Daily Mirror showing on my phone. Nearly every week there are pieces about recalled foods in various supermarkets, usually where an ingredient has got into something ' by mistake' but sometimes because there may be bits of metal, glass etc in the food. It's quite worrying how frequently these things happen. I see they are all listed on your official site which I didn't know existed.

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby Pampy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:31 am

Stokey Sue wrote:
Encourages me as though my hearing is quite good now, I’ll probably need them, of course I can’t lip read

I didn't think that I could lip read but as my hearing deteriorated, I realised that I was doing it more and more. If I don't wear my hearing aids, I can usually still manage by a combination of understanding some words and lip reading others. All gone to pot now as I can't wear the aids with a mask and I can't lip read because other people are wearing them!

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby Stokey Sue » Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:08 am

I can’t lip read because I can’t see lips well enough to follow - in fact I’ve already lost some ability to follow the speech of people whose faces I can’t see, we all do a bit without knowing, there’s something called the McGurk effect that most English speakers use to distinguish consonants, I sort of noticed this myself about 4 years ago. I never quite understand why it’s not more of a problem on the telephone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8fHR9jKVM

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby halfateabag » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:02 am

Thanks peeps. EM the hearing unit (small) sits behind your ear with a very thin tube (much thinner than my Dads) comes from that unit over the top/front (of ear) and goes into your actual ear. I was concerned that it (the whole apparatus) could easily dislodge and I might loose it, so far no problems, so much so that I can't feel the unit when its in use.

I have been lip reading for some time, but not realising that I was doing it, face masks put paid to that !

As long as 'my ears' go on first I don't have problems with the glasses (even with a string to keep them around my neck). Mask goes on last, so far so good, I have not been tangled up.

Very impressed with the NHS service and quality of goods. I had my audio test on 21st Dec and had them fitted within 5 weeks.

OH tried them on and seemed impressed as well.

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby Earthmaiden » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:09 am

Sounds really good zosh.

I depend on lip reading far more than I did and find masks do make it difficult sometimes. I have wondered about the phone too. I have a relative with very poor hearing - which hearing aids won't help - who can carry out conversations on the phone with no problem at all, yet the rest of the time she's mostly lip reading.

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby Suffs » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:22 am

The phone thing is interesting ... MIL has poor hearing (an effect of her thyroid condition) and has used a hearing aid for some years, but she has struggled increasingly over recent years when using the phone, especially with voices she doesn’t recognise. However just recently she had discovered that she can hear callers perfectly well if she switches the phone to Speakerphone.

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby herbidacious » Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:24 pm

I get my mother to do that too.

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby Stokey Sue » Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:35 pm

I suspect nobody is following the link to the McGurk effect - it's quite entertaining and only 2 and a bit minutes

There's a team at City University looking at the indirect effects of sight loss/low vision and they are looking into how much loss of it affects people with deteriorating eye sight, they told me about it because I asked if loss of lip reading was an issue,

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby Earthmaiden » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:00 pm

That is very interesting Sue, and worth watching.

Even that effect is better than nothing though which you would experience with sight loss.

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby PatsyMFagan » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:09 pm

halfateabag wrote:Thanks peeps. EM the hearing unit (small) sits behind your ear with a very thin tube (much thinner than my Dads) comes from that unit over the top/front (of ear) and goes into your actual ear. I was concerned that it (the whole apparatus) could easily dislodge and I might loose it, so far no problems, so much so that I can't feel the unit when its in use.

I have been lip reading for some time, but not realising that I was doing it, face masks put paid to that !

As long as 'my ears' go on first I don't have problems with the glasses (even with a string to keep them around my neck). Mask goes on last, so far so good, I have not been tangled up.

Very impressed with the NHS service and quality of goods. I had my audio test on 21st Dec and had them fitted within 5 weeks.


I have completely missed this thread and never think to look on 'Other Stuff'

I was nagged to go to my GP several years ago by my daughter as I could never understand/hear what she was saying.

She referred me to my local hearing centre - I went along, had the tests and came out wearing my new appliances. :thumbsup However, as others have said, nothing was explained to me at all, apart from how to clean them (they are the same type as yours Zosh ). They had a rocker switch at the back that seemed to do nothing, however after wearing them for a couple of hours, they started to get painful, so I went back - seems I have very small ear channels and the little collar that held them in place in my ear was too big. A smaller one was fitted and when I asked what the rocker switch was for, it was discovered the sound control hadn't been switched on ! :roll: :o

Recently I got the new version - and now I can hear even clearer, although this time I wasn't given the little red plastic thread that clears the tubes - didn't realise this until I got home :roll: :thumbsdown

And after all this, I still can't hear my daughter ... she talks fast, low and with her head down, or turned away, so she is still cross that I can't hear a word she says, or at the very least, mis-hear ! :x

The weekend man has a hearing aid; one of those that is moulded to his ear with a much larger tube. He has no hearing in the other ear at all. I do wonder if this kind of aid is for those who are much harder of hearing :?:

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Re: General Wellbeing

Postby PatsyMFagan » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:12 pm

Earthmaiden wrote:Zosh, that's great news. Have you got 'over the ear' ones or ones that sit in the ear? My hearing's not as good as it was but I'm still managing for now.


Em, the hearing aids that sit in your ear are usually privately bought ones and can cost a fortune ! My sister bought those, but kept getting ear infections so has had revert back to the 'bog standard' NHS ones ;)

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