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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby PatsyMFagan » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:35 pm

Stokey Sue wrote:Also it irks the pros that it is presented as Dr Michael Mosley’s diet. He joined the BBC in 1985, almost immediately after he qualified, and his registration as a doctor lapsed about 3 years later when he didn’t complete CME (Continuing medical education) and re-register. So he hasn’t been a doctor for over 30 years


My Oncologist did his early medical training alongside MM.... he didn't have much good to say about him :roll:

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Suelle » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:59 pm

I've said before that Mosley's original 5:2 diet worked very well for me - losing over 35kg and keeping it off (within a yo-yo of 3kg) for around 5 years now.

I've changed my diet radically in terms of eating 'normally', as I do most of the time now - much smaller portions of carbohydrates and more fruit and veg, less meat and more vegetarian meals. If I notice weight going on, then I reduce the carbohydrates further until it's down enough (this usually involves cutting out snacks such as biscuits and crisps for a couple of weeks).

That said, I'm still about 5kg overweight going by BMI, and am the dangerous apple shape! So, still some work to do.
The blog which does what it says on the tin:

http://mainlybaking.blogspot.co.uk/

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Sakkarin » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:14 pm

Hadn't realised that 5:2 thing was a Mosley invention. I noticed you had an entire board dedicated to it on Wildfood, although I didn't read it. Am interested in the low carb comments on his latest programme.

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Renee » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:50 am

You've done brilliantly Suelle! A woman that I knew at the gym was following the
5:2 diet and changed out of all recognition. I have been following the Fast 800 Diet and feel so much better with the 4kg weight that I have lost over the past four weeks. I do go off track occasionally with Ryvita, butter spread and reduced fat cream cheese late at night because I sleep well after it. I need to change that.

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Stokey Sue » Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:08 pm

I don’t think Mosley invented 5:2, rather he refined and repackaged it

5:2 is fine and I know a couple of diabetes specialists who have done it, but Renée most doctors specialising in nutrition and most dietitians think that 21 days on 800 kcal is far too long especially for older people, 800 is starvation level and could have poor long term consequences- the Ryvita is probably a good thing

I really need to lose weight, and will go back onto 5:2 when I’m finally back to my normal activity level, in the meantime just sticking to a light summer Mediterranean diet

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Stokey Sue » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:35 pm

This is a superb article by the lovely Ian Marber on why detox isn't real, which also goes into which health claims can be made relating to food and drink

It's well written and easy to read, not overly technical. I find the Spectator an unlikely home for it, but there you go

https://life.spectator.co.uk/articles/d ... tox-foods/

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby KeenCook2 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:48 pm

Great article, Sue! Thanks!

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Pampy » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:45 am

At last - someone who speaks sense instead of wittering pseudo-science!

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby PatsyMFagan » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:20 am

I had already read plenty on the myth of detoxing so this just confirms it. :thumbsup

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Earthmaiden » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:34 am

I think that many think of a detox as the clean, fresh feeling one gets when starting a strict reducing diet filled with mostly fruit, veg, fewer high GI carbs and no processed foods (of the bad sort) and it is easy to see why. It's really just a halt in overfilling the body with rubbish and might be better known as a 'reset' of poor habits which of course, often lead to improved blood pressure, glucose levels etc.

Those who exploit this with weird supplementary potions under the name of 'detox' are a bit naughty. I do think, however, that a short period on a very low calorie 'reset' diet, even just juices or other liquids, helps people to prepare mentally for the change of habits, even if not physically recommended.

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Rainbow » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:52 am

Good article, Sue. I've always known we had our own built-in detox systems - mainly the liver, but the article also mentions quite a few others.

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Renee » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:46 am

Thanks for the very wise words Sue. I am 83 now and think that 5:2 is the best way to go for me.

Thank you also for the very interesting article. Fortunately, I have never been taken in by detoxing. The body is well capable of doing that. Avoiding toxins in the first place would be helpful.

Ahhh .. Ian Marber! I have the Food Doctor Ultimate Diet book.

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby PatsyMFagan » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:08 am

Since I first saw it for sale in my local Tesco, I have been buying 'NAKED' Finnebrogue Bacon .. this is preserved without Nitrates, Nitrites and sugar ... Lovely quality back bacon, both smoked and 'green' and seemingly processed in NI .. I am looking for streaky though. Then I read that Aldi sell their own version of this bacon. Now to find my nearest Aldi :thumbsup

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Renee » Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:17 am

That's interesting about the Aldi bacon Pat. I have been avoiding that store recently because the car park is quite small and the new Lidl has a much larger car park. I used to buy quite a few things from Aldi.

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby jeral » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:57 pm

I recall when nitrate/nitrite free bacon was heralded in the news from the NI company (available shortly then) that there were other reports at the same time that a couple of companies were also making it in the EU so I imagine the NI company will be keen to try to keep their brand front and centre.

I suspect EU suppliers might be the source of some supermarket "own brands". Nothing wrong with that of course, depending on any tariffs after Brexit perhaps which if harsh might generate more UK sources.

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby KeenCook2 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:30 pm

Was it on this thread we had a discussion about Sauerkraut and the health benefits? I just happened to open the latest Lidl email and see that it's part of their Alpenfest offers (along with fondue etc and some rather nice looking bake your own pretzels!)
But it could be that it's not actually the healthy sort as it'll have been, was it, pasteurised? I can't remember what the treatment was that stops it from being so healthy :oops:

If anyone gets the pretzels, please do report back - we're not going to be in a position to try them out!

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Stokey Sue » Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:49 pm

Sauerkraut like yogurt needs to be live if you are to get the full benefit of the microbes in it. So like yogurt, the best will come from the chiller cabinet

The Lidl one is canned, so it will definitely have been given some sort of heat treatment that kills off the microbes

Still a good veg, and 99p seems very reasonable

https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/p/flavour-of- ... ine/p35079

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby scullion » Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:51 pm

KeenCook2 wrote:But it could be that it's not actually the healthy sort as it'll have been, was it, pasteurised?

if it's the stuff in jars then it would have to have been heat treated (therefore killing the beneficial bacteria) otherwise it would be exploding all over the shop. it's still vegetables/fibre though so still good to feed to your own bacteria.

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby Renee » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:32 am

I'm glad that I made my own now which was easy enough to do. A slight problem now is how to get rid of the very strong smell from the rubber/silicone seal now that I emptied one jar.

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Re: Healthy Eating

Postby PatsyMFagan » Thu Sep 17, 2020 10:15 am

I have a similar problem when I cook curry in my Instant Pot ... However, it doesn't transfer to other dishes.

You could try Milton (for sterilising baby bottles) .. I was going to suggest leaving out in the sun, but I think that's more for (turmeric) stains

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